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#2 (permalink) Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:27 am How to unquote 'nested' quotes at once? |
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Hi Tamara
I'd say your example needs "" at the end. But, that would look very strange, wouldn't it? I think that's why most people would make a conscious effort to avoid the necessity of doing it. In your sentence, for example, it would be clearly preferable and much less clumsy to use reported speech (for what the father said).
Maria said (to Mike), “Stop doing that, please, it’s risky. Your father told you just yesterday that he'd throw the skateboard away if you continued those acrobatic exercises without any protectors.”
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#3 (permalink) Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:19 am How to unquote 'nested' quotes at once? |
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| Yankee wrote: | | In your sentence, for example, it would be clearly preferable and much less clumsy to use reported speech... |
Yes, I know. I’ve just asked about the general rule. If you have it 
…But what about my morning (not specially constructed ) case: "Yes, ma'am, we certainly have it. You can easily find it at "Home Bakery"[?"?]..
(I suppose, in this case I might be advised to use " 'Home Bakery ' " or other tricks to avoid clumsiness. For example .
But, again, I just ask about general rules for nested quotes. For example, imagine a heading ending with an idiom (quoted) that in turn contains a part of another idiom (also quoted). Or some technical texts that normally require correct and precise quoting. Sometimes you need to quote a phrase that ends by a quote, in turn. ‘ ‘ ’’.
Tamara _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#4 (permalink) Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:38 am How to unquote 'nested' quotes at once? |
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Hi Tamara
I have seen the quotation marks doubled up on occasion (in news reports, for example). As far as I know, that's necessary when there's a quote within a quote.
But for your Home Bakery example, it's probably enough that you capitalized and didn't use an article, don't you think? (i.e., it's a proper noun --- the specific proper name for a department in that supermarket).
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#5 (permalink) Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:37 pm He said 'she said "they said 'I said "hello"' |
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He said 'she said "they said 'I said "hello"'"'
The rules for inverted commas (aka 'quotation marks' or 'quotes') seem to be confusing, illogical and byzantine. They also differ, depending on whether you're American, British or whatever.
Anyway, you might enjoy the following:
| Quote: | Question: How do you punctuate a quote within a quote within a quote? For example:
Bob said, "Sue said, 'My favorite poem is "The Raven".'"
Is the above punctuation correct, or is there some other way?
Answer: The rules generate a mess even worse than the one you supply. All quotation marks fall outside terminal punctuation. Thus:
Bob said, "Sue said, 'My favorite poem is "The Raven."'"
Fortunately, this kind of construction is extremely unlikely to occur. It has the character of a grammarian's party joke. After all, the punctuation is the least of its problems. Even orally, you can barely follow the words.
If you like this kind of thing, you might muse over the possibilities of the following sentence:
Should a doctor doctor a doctor according to the doctoring doctor's doctrine of doctoring doctored doctors, or should a doctor doctor a doctor according to the doctored doctor's doctrine of doctoring doctored doctors? |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:07 am Newpapers' English. Long direct speech |
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Hi
Quite fresh real illustration to the first post & another (close) question (direct speech, punctuation rules, de jure <> de facto ):
A literal quote from a local newspaper (Comet, June 29, 2006, local edition):
| Quote: | Oliver Heald,… said: “I am shocked that…. … . “I have personally asked…. … . “I will continue… …… .”
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What’s new or unusual for me: 1. Each paragraph (of a long direct speech) begins with a new “ ! 2. There is the only ” in the very end that closes all the above. ! 3. Colon (:), not comma, is used to begin a direct speech. In my language colon is the only right punctuation mark to do that, but in English, as I can see, formally prescribed comma is used. Almost everywhere 
Please, comment the case (long direct speech with paragraphs).
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