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'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd #1 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:06 am   'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd
 

Hi

Could you explain the difference between give up and give in?

Is the first just 'more general' whereas the second implies a particular thing or person that appears to be 'stronger than you'?

Never give up!
Never give in!


What is the difference in meaning here?
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Meaning #2 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:27 am   Meaning
 

Morning Tamara,

Give up suggests not do any more, stop doing as in:

Charlie gave up smoking when his doctor told him that smoking was seriously damaging his health.

Give in suggests surrender, yield or no longer resist as in:

You can argue about it till you're blue in the face but I will not give in to your demands.

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'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd #3 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:41 am   'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd
 

Morning Alan,

Quote:
Give in suggests surrender, yield or no longer resist..
Clear, thanks.

Quote:
Give up suggests not do any more, stop doing…
Hmm. Can I then say 'Never give up your attempts to stop smoking' Smile as an (ironical, of course) upturned/inversed equivalent to 'Try to give up smoking!'
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'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd #4 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:47 am   'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd
 

Hi,

Give up your attempts ? - well yes but I'd like to pad it out a bit and say: Never give up on/with your attempts. Maybe I'm being a bit nitpicky, though. Hope I haven't added confusion now!

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'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd #5 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:21 am   'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd
 

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Hope I haven't added confusion now!
I’ll never give up with my attempts not to give in! Smile

Learning language is often similar to disentanglement of a fish-tackle. Sometimes, when I pull a loop that seems so 'safe', the tangle just becomes even more twisted…
With all this going on, also keeping in mind old cans of worms... Smile

…Thanks a lot, Alan!
I would have given up if there hadn’t been so many supportive people in the world.

Have a nice day!
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'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd #6 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:35 am   'Don't give in without a fight' © Pink Floyd
 

Tamara wrote:
Learning language is often similar to disentanglement of a fish-tackle.
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I like that one, Tamara. What a vivid picture! Very Happy
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