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#2 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:45 am 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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Hi Tamara,
The difference between 'is/will be applied' and simply 'applies' is that the 'passive' form is the one that indicates that something is being actively undertaken and the use of 'applies' just refers to the present condition or state.
You have probably read about the container ship that has run aground off the Devon coast in the south of England. People have been looting those boxes that have been washed up ashore. You could say: I think that the same laws about stealing should apply to looting. Again you can report: Police have now cordoned off the beach and the law relating to salvage according to XXXX has been applied.
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Alan Co-founder

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#3 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:43 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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I think the difference between "applies" and "be applied" is more than just active and passive in this case. There are really two verbs, one an active verb and the other a stative verb. One can be passivized and one cannot.
Active People apply this system when there is an emergency. = This system is applied when there is an emergency.
Stative This system applies when there is an emergency. = This system is valid when there is an emergency. No passive is possible, because there is no agent and no direct object.
So for your sentence:
Each activity contains an explanation of the cases to which it will apply. = Each activity contains an explanation of the cases in which it will be valid. In this case, "apply" is a stative verb, so when you make it passive, you are changing it to an active verb with a different subject:
Each activity contains an explanation of the cases to which it will be applied. = Each activity contains an explanation of the cases to which people will apply it. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 13:18 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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Well, yes. I have just said that, haven't I?
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#5 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 13:34 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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| Alan wrote: | | Well, yes. I have just said that, haven't I? |
I just added my two cents' worth and gave different examples. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 15:49 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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I think I've got the difference.
For myself I'll remember it by 'labling' the second case of apply with the 'label': it just states the condition that smth is potentially appllicable. And nothing about whether it will really be applied, how, and by whom.
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#7 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 21:55 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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| Tamara wrote: | I think I've got the difference.
For myself I'll remember it by 'labling' the second case of apply with the 'label': it just states the condition that smth is potentially appllicable. And nothing about whether it will really be applied, how, and by whom. |
I think that's a good way to look at it. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#8 (permalink) Tue Jan 23, 2007 23:31 pm 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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...just don't misspell "applicable".
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#9 (permalink) Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:51 am 'The procedure is applied' vs 'the procedure applies' |
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...I’llll never do this again. I pprrrommmiiisssse!
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