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#182 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 17:48 pm Errors in the tests |
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Hi Amy,
Thanks a lot for your great work -- I'll go through all your suggestions and make the changes.
Regards, Torsten _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#183 (permalink) Sun Jan 13, 2008 13:21 pm Errors in the tests |
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Here is another test that needs to be reviewed and edited: http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii216/esl-test.php
- Sentences 3, 5, 6 and 10 contain words that run together (i.e. they need spaces between them). - The apostrophe in sentence 3 is incorrect, in my opinion. It should be either managers meeting or managers' meeting. - Sentence 9 is a run-on sentence. The easiest fix would be to make "It was beautiful and picturesque!" a separate sentence. . |
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#185 (permalink) Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:32 am Errors in the tests |
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Well, aside from the question about whether a boss can be a woman or not, this test could use a bit of punctuation clean-up: http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ir023/esl-test.php I've placed a red line (__) in the spots that I think need some sort of additional punctuation. Perhaps the test-writer can take it from there.
Sentence 2. Yes, that's right __ another dead mouse.
Sentence 4. You can always book seats in advance by paying on the Internet __ and when you get to the theatre, you can collect your cards (tickets).
Sentence 9. They were really excited and thought they'd bought a painting by Van Gogh __ but an expert pointed out that the signature had been imitated (forged).
Sentence 10. What about you __ do you have hunger (are you hungry) or have you eaten? (Making this two separate sentences would probably be best.)
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Sentence 7: "A good boss is someone who shows appreciation at Christmas time for all the work his employed (employees) have done throughout the year." I wonder whether the author will address the he/she/their issue. In addition, 'Christmas time' is generally written as one word: Christmastime.
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EDIT: Since this is a test in which the error in each sentence has to be found by the test-taker, I've underlined the errors and added the correct answers (i.e. the answers provided after the test is completed) in parentheses and in blue. |
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#187 (permalink) Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:16 am Errors in the tests |
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Hi MM
That was a test in which the test-taker has to find the error, and I copied the test sentences as they appear before the test has been completed (i.e. the errors are still there). I'll edit my last post and underline the errors, and add the correct answers (in blue and in parentheses). |
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#188 (permalink) Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:51 am Errors in the tests |
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By the way, while we're still on this particular test, I'd also like to mention that saying "changing cubicle" sounds just as wrong to me as "changing cabin" does. (Sentence 3 in the test.)
In the US, we generally refer to the place in a store where you can try clothes on as a "dressing room" -- possibly sometimes a "changing room". Calling it a "changing cubicle" sounds just plain wrong to my American ear.
This brings us back to a question that has not been addressed very well here, in my opinion:
Should this sort of sentence be left "as is" without any mention whatsoever that this particular usage of the word 'cubicle' is limited to British English? To me, the failure to mention such things is misleading for ESL students!
Torsten and Alan, why are you so darn reluctant to include or even acknowledge these sorts of differences? . |
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#189 (permalink) Sun Feb 03, 2008 17:01 pm Errors in the tests |
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http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii174/esl-test.php
Besides the fact that sentence 4 is rather peculiar as a stand-alone sentence, sentence 9 needs to have the comma removed before the word 'can'. The correct sentence should appear this way:
The intelligent dressing room can scan your measurements and display how a particular item of clothing will look on you on a projection screen. |
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#191 (permalink) Mon Feb 04, 2008 15:39 pm Errors in the tests |
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Hi Slava
In this test http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ir023/esl-test.php , I've now noticed the following:
- Sentence 2 is unchanged. Is that intentional? - Sentence 3 is also unchanged. In that sentence, entering the word 'rooms' (for example) rather than 'cubicles' results in the answer being incorrect. I strongly feel that if you are going to test for the expression "changing cubicles", there should be some sort of notation that the usage of this collocation is quite limited OR you should accept additional answers. As this sentence currently stands, it is not an appropriate test of the word 'cubicle', but instead apparently tests a single dialect or a local colloquialism. If you are going to test specific dialects (and intentionally exclude others), I think you ought to make the test-taker aware of that, and also mention which specific dialect is being tested. As I mentioned in my previous post, the expression changing cubicle is not something that anyone would ever use here. If you referred to a "changing cubicle" here (rather than a "dressing room"), it would basically sound just as strange as "changing cabin" -- which is considered to be the error in this sentence!
I believe it was Torsten who wrote that this site focuses on "international" English. To me, the use of "changing cubicle" is strictly local, and definitely not international.
- Sentence 7 still suggests that all bosses are men, but at least the spelling of Christmastime was repaired. 
I see that someone has accepted my other suggestions.
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In this test http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii174/esl-test.php , I've noticed the following:
- Sentence 4 is unchanged and still odd. As a stand-alone sentence, it might be more appropriate to say "My mother" rather than "My boss". - Sentence 9 is better now. In addition, because sentence 3 of the other test used the odd expression "changing cubicle", I can't help but wonder whether the Brits also use the collocation "dressing room" -- or whether "dressing room" is primarily an American collocation. . |
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#193 (permalink) Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:57 pm Errors in the tests |
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Dear Amy,
please post your correct sentences with answers and I'll make the essential changes in tests.
Test: http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ir023/esl-test.php
Sentence 2: Do you know what the cat bought in for me today? Yes, that's right: another dead mouse. answer(s) brought in
Sentence 3: The advantage of this kind of store is that if you're not absolutely sure the clothing is the right size, you can try it on in one of the changing cabins. answer(s) cubicles, rooms
Sentence 7: A good boss is someone who shows appreciation at Christmastime for all the work their employed have done throughout the year. answer(s) employees
Test: http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii174/esl-test.php
Sentence 4: My mother put on her ......... and made herself some coffee. answer(s) dressing gown
Sentence 9: The intelligent ......... can scan your measurements and display how a particular item of clothing will look on you on a projection screen. answer(s) dressing room
Dear Charles,
please write a correct sentence for me.
Test: http://www.english-test.net/esl/learn/english/grammar/ii146/esl-test.php
Sentence 8: Harry: What time does your flight leave? Deb: Our departure is scheduled for 7:45 in the morning. Could you take me to the airport? Harry: Sure. We'll have to leave the city at about 5 o'clock then. Deb: Sounds good. Question: What time does Sue's flight leave? .......... answer(s) 7:45 am
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#194 (permalink) Tue Feb 05, 2008 13:36 pm Errors in the tests |
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. Sentence 8: Harry: What time does your flight leave? Deb: Our departure is scheduled for 7:45 in the morning. Could you take me to the airport? Harry: Sure. We'll have to leave the city at about 5 o'clock then. Deb: Sounds good. Question: What time does Deb's flight leave? .......... answer(s) 7:45 am . _________________ Canadian-American native speaker who teaches English for a living at Mister Micawber's ESL cafe: Interview with Mister Micawber |
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#195 (permalink) Tue Feb 05, 2008 14:32 pm Errors in the tests |
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| Thank you, Charles. |
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