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#2 (permalink) Fri Jan 04, 2008 14:51 pm Also great is? |
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| Torsten wrote: | What do you make of the following sentence -- to me, it seems that at least the word order is not "very English":
Also great is the 'Webhead' session. |
This word order is perfect English.
Subject-verb inversion is used not only for questions, but also when a negative expression comes at the beginning of a sentence:
| Quote: | Never have I seen such a thing. Seldom did he ever come to meetings. |
And also when certain types of information are moved from the predicate to the front of the sentence.
| Quote: | Even better was the cartoon before the main feature. Especially good are these Indian pastries. |
If you don't believe me, open up Cambridge "Grammar in Use - Advanced" and do the two lessons on "Inversion". I give these lessons to very advanced German speakers of English shortly after they arrive in the US. Their eyes bug out, and they tell me, "Writing like this is a sure way to fail an English test in Germany."
Note that earlier in its history, English was a "verb second" language, just like German. It also had the same noun cases. |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 17:22 pm Also great is? |
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Torsten, here's a music video, and you can hear this word order:
"Three o'clock in the morning, here am I."
It sounds like Germlish, but it's really English. |
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 23:42 pm Also great is? |
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Hi Jamie,
Thanks a lot for that -- what would be the difference between "Three o'clock in the morning, here am I." and "Three o'clock in the morning, here I am"? To me, "... here I am" sounds as if it should be followed by something like "... here I am lonesome again." Is that right? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 23:59 pm Also great is? |
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Hi Torsten,
Just another thought on this. 'Here am I' is used with a sense of surprise and irony with the idea of:' Just look at me!'
For example I could be explaining something to you about the German language and then I would realise that is a bit presumptuous on my part and I would say: 'Here am I telling you something about your language!'
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#6 (permalink) Wed Jan 09, 2008 0:12 am Also great is? |
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| Generally, at least for Americans, there seems to be no difference between "here am I" and "here I am" when they're some kind of exclamation. However, if someone asked you, "Where are you?" the answer would have to be, "Here I am." "Here am I," wouldn't work in that situation. |
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