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| neverland wrote: | | I am a chinese, and i was wondering that why the I've tried to use a swear word but it doesn't work here. |
It's got nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party. It's because over here, on the Western capitalist side, people don't want to be offended by swear words, so the forum software is set not to accept them.
| neverland wrote: | | Anyway, the five poor countries will follow the great capitalist countries finally, actually they are doing what the capitalist countries do now! |
Actually, they're doing EXACTLY what the capitalist countries do now -- except for a few things: the rule of law, property rights, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of religion, basic rights and the presumption of innocence to those who are arrested, product safety standards, the right to have as many children as they want... |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Mon Apr 07, 2008 15:03 pm five poor countries in the world |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | neverland wrote: | | I am a chinese, and i was wondering that why the I've tried to use a swear word but it doesn't work here. |
It's got nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party. It's because over here, on the Western capitalist side, people don't want to be offended by swear words, so the forum software is set not to accept them.
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Actually when he used a swear word, the software changed it for "I've tried to use a swear word but it doesn't work here."  |
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Mon Apr 07, 2008 15:08 pm five poor countries in the world |
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That makes sense. I didn't understand the post earlier but now I do. _________________ Try your best and damn the rest. |
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Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:56 am five poor countries in the world |
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In fact I don't think China is that poor after all. The income for the urban professionals is actually quite competitive compare to other countries. (If you compare apple to apple and not to factor in the currency exchange, also according to the standard of living there). The problems in China are, there are still too many rural areas are yet to develop and the total population in China is too big in which it causes the average income lower. The income gap is far too big for those working in big cities and those living in underdevelop areas. Personally (again, it's my own view), I think China will be growing big and strong in the next 5-10 years. Perhaps you will make $$$ if you buy RenMenBi now and to sell it few years later.  |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:19 am five poor countries in the world |
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Hello Jamie I totally agree with your opinion. there is no human rights in china, I do feel so upset that the poor chinese are all being brainwashed by the f-uck-ing chinese communist party! How i wish the fuc-king ccp be knocked down one day! the chinese people need human rights, we do need human rights!!!!!!!!!11 |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:28 am five poor countries in the world |
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| NinaZara wrote: | | That makes sense. I didn't understand the post earlier but now I do. |
I do envy you japan very much! you are a great country!you chose the capitalism and you did achieve great progress, right choice made you japan rich, and you japanese recived respect all over the world! It is well known that: the only way to make you rich is to run capitalism! |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:57 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | It is well known that: the only way to make you rich is to run capitalism! |
Who does it make rich? |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:24 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | It is well known that: the only way to make you rich is to run capitalism! |
Who does it make rich? |
I wanna know where do you come from? if you are from one fo those five countries, then i have to tell you that: capitalism can make you rich!!!!!! forget the stupid socialism! |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:04 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | capitalism can make you rich!!!!!! |
Me personally? So everyone in capitalist countries is rich, right?  |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:33 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Neverland, I think you are a bit too extreme in this case. For me, I think every country has it's own rights to do what is best for the citizens. (Probably not, but if the government or the leaders think so) Perhaps China is not so ready to go into capitalism at this point in time. The least we should do is to respect each and every country's Economic Policy be it China or other Western countries! |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:50 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | capitalism can make you rich!!!!!! |
Me personally? So everyone in capitalist countries is rich, right?  |
In capitalist countries that have rule of law and human rights, in general everyone is richer than they are in hardcore socialist countries. We have people in the US who complain that they're poor, but they live at the material level of middle-class people in socialist countries or higher. It's absurd when you see someone complain about living in poverty when he's fat, has his own apartment, one or two cars, cable TV and other luxuries, but you commonly see that in the States. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:55 am five poor countries in the world |
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| neverland wrote: | Hello Jamie I totally agree with your opinion. there is no human rights in china, I do feel so upset that the poor chinese are all being brainwashed by the f-uck-ing chinese communist party! How i wish the fuc-king ccp be knocked down one day! the chinese people need human rights, we do need human rights!!!!!!!!!11 |
What about all these Chinese I talk to who claim that everyone has complete human rights in China and that the reports of human rights violations are only propaganda?
I usually think of these people as being like Americans who claim that Chicago is a very safe city, just because they live in the safe part of it and have never been attacked. I interpret what these Chinese say as meaning, "I got the privilege of an education and a good job in China, so I don't get involved in religion and I keep my mouth shut. Nobody bothers me."
What do you have to say about their assertion that everyone has complete human rights in China? |
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:55 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | In capitalist countries that have rule of law and human rights, in general everyone is richer than they are in hardcore socialist countries. |
I don't think the comparative adjective was used above. Do you? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:57 am five poor countries in the world |
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| Quote: | | It's absurd when you see someone complain about living in poverty when he's fat, has his own apartment, one or two cars, cable TV and other luxuries, but you commonly see that in the States. |
Are all those products bought and paid for, in general? How would you class someone as poor, Jamie?
| Quote: | | I usually think of these people as being like Americans who claim that Chicago is a very safe city, just because they live in the safe part of it and have never been attacked. |
You often get the same from people who have never been poor. They often criticise or disbelieve those who are poor. |
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