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| Jan wrote: | | Quote: | I don't get this. Wouldn't it be just an exclamation of surprise? How is it sinful?
By the way I think the F-word is overused. |
That is true , calling God by name is sinful specially in vain with F* or witout F*
Jeshua of Nazareth
It is what we know about his name. Harald has been mentioned in Bible I guess
Christ means is Greek aointment man ,Jesus is also from Greek.
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What about saying "Jeezz..." as an exclamation of disappointment? When I was in high school me and my friends used this only because we heard it on TV.
Or "Sweet Jesus!" or even "Good Lord!"? Are they considered sinful too by Christians? |
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| #33 (permalink) Sun May 18, 2008 22:20 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| Quote: | What about saying "Jeezz..." as an exclamation of disappointment? When I was in high school me and my friends used this only because we heard it on TV.
Or "Sweet Jesus!" or even "Good Lord!"? Are they considered sinful too by Christians? |
What I remeber of my religion lessons , it was quite clear said that any mention of God's name (if unnecessery) is abusing your relations with God and treated as kind of sin.
You really can't expect anything else prior to importance of not using God's influence on your everyday troubles.
I am not believer but I would certainly level my contacts with any over humans
power less intense as it is unfortunatly quite common among people.
Don't worry I am sure even if you had committed many such sins, it is very possible that you were uninformed rightly and these sins are treated as very very soft.
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| #34 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 13:50 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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I'm not worried, Jan.  I am just interested in what the Christians think. |
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| #35 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 14:11 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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Hi Nina
I think it not only depends very much on the individual, but also on the area someone lives in and/or comes from. As I mentioned earlier, people from the NYC area seem to use and accept the usage of obscenities -- much more so than people from many other areas. Even though NYC is only about 120 miles or so from where I grew up, when I moved to the NYC area, I was flabbergasted by the frequency with which people tended to use the F-word.
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| #36 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 15:00 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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You're right, Amy. I just hope I won't offend any Christian just by saying "Good God" or any other combinations, excluding the F-word of course.
As God is my witness, I will not stoop myself to that level. |
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| #37 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 16:48 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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Have you ever heard the expression 'good grief'?
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| #38 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 17:48 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| NinaZara wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | | No. Most Christians would consider it a sin against the second commandment, or something similar. They would consider it sinful without even inserting the F-word. |
I don't get this. Wouldn't it be just an exclamation of surprise? How is it sinful? |
I don't get why Muslims object to drawings and paintings of Mohammed. Wouldn't they just be an expression of artistic impulse? |
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| #39 (permalink) Mon May 19, 2008 17:59 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| NinaZara wrote: | | What about saying "Jeezz..." as an exclamation of disappointment? When I was in high school me and my friends used this only because we heard it on TV. |
We were not allowed to say "Jeez" in our house when I was growing up. However, later I started saying it. It doesn't bother me that much, partly because I never associated it with the name of Jesus until my mother created that association in my mind.
When Americans get really emotional, they tend to change the sound at the beginning of that word from [dʒ] to [tʃ]. I have fun with this and don't write "jeez!" anymore, but instead "cheese!" or "cheeses!"
| NinaZara wrote: | | Or "Sweet Jesus!" |
I don't object to that expression for religious reasons, but just because I happen to find the expression annoying.
| NinaZara wrote: | | or even "Good Lord!"? Are they considered sinful too by Christians? |
Many Christians don't object to that one, but some do.
Personally, I find that avoiding religious, sexual and scatological cuss words makes life more fun, because you can invent all kinds of vivid ways to express your surprise or annoyance. The only danger is that when you use traditional cuss words, they often go right past the listener without being processed. If you use an original expression, the listener is more likely to process it, and thus more likely to get angry or have his feelings hurt. |
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| #40 (permalink) Wed May 21, 2008 15:16 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | NinaZara wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | | No. Most Christians would consider it a sin against the second commandment, or something similar. They would consider it sinful without even inserting the F-word. |
I don't get this. Wouldn't it be just an exclamation of surprise? How is it sinful? |
I don't get why Muslims object to drawings and paintings of Mohammed. Wouldn't they just be an expression of artistic impulse? |
We object to any drawings of holy figure, including Jesus, not only Mohammed. The reason was quite simple, we are not allowed to imagine or create up what we don't know about, with anything that is holy. In this case, how our prophets looked like.
And before, I didn't understand why saying God's name when one is surprised is forbidden in Christianity because I was taught to say God's name whenever I am surprised, or whenever I see good or bad things, instead of any other nonsense. Mainly because saying God's name bring certain effect to us, like strength, patience, calmness etc.
But according to Jan's explanation, I think I get it that the main reason Christians aren't allowed to say God's name unnecessarily is because that is one of the ways how Christians revere holy essence, and I get it that we don't temper with anything that we regard as holy.
Just like why Muslims don't temper with prophets characteristics. |
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| #41 (permalink) Wed May 21, 2008 15:21 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| Yankee wrote: | .
Have you ever heard the expression 'good grief'?
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Oh yes I have, Amy. But I never used it personally. I however, used to copy my baby sister, she likes to say "Oh my jee-o-dee!", stressing the letter G. I think she heard it on Disney.
I have also heard "Egads!", from one Disney cartoon "The Brave Engineer". I checked the dictionary and it said it has God's element in it. Is it offensive too? By many, at least? |
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| #42 (permalink) Wed May 21, 2008 17:03 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| Quote: | | Personally, I find that avoiding religious, sexual and scatological cuss words makes life more fun, because you can invent all kinds of vivid ways to express your surprise or annoyance. |
Do you invent your own language items when you go shopping?
| Quote: | | The only danger is that when you use traditional cuss words, they often go right past the listener without being processed. If you use an original expression, the listener is more likely to process it, and thus more likely to get angry or have his feelings hurt. |
LOL! Go try and say "F*ck all Northerners!" in a pub in Manchester. See if it gets processed. |
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| #43 (permalink) Fri May 23, 2008 13:50 pm Jesus ... Christ |
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| MrPedantic wrote: | I'm not sure that "Harold" is mentioned in the Bible; I think it's a name of Scandinavian origin.
All the best,
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Okay, okay... I'll allow this blasphemy (challenging the Lord's Holy Middle Name) just this once.
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