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the phrase with "no one" Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:02 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
Hi,

They could afford to pay only $40000 for a new home, and they were quite dismayed to learn that there were no one available in that price range

===>>> This is a mistake correcting question, and it is wrong in the phrase "no one", so "no one" just has the meaning of"nobody"? It never has the meaning of "not anything"? (I mean, "not any new home" in this very sentence)

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"no one"? Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:10 am  "no one"?		  
Here, it sounds OK:

"No one ivory tower could be enough for this native."
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"no one"? Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:32 am  "no one"?		  
"No one ivory tower"?
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"no one"? Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:56 am  "no one"?		  
nessie wrote:
"No one ivory tower"?

No one = no single thing

"The term Ivory Tower designates a world or atmosphere where intellectuals engage in pursuits that are disconnected from the practical concerns of everyday life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory_tower
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:25 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
But "no one ivory tower" still sounds a bit weird to me. Could you please give me another example?
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:05 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
nessie wrote:
But "no one ivory tower" still sounds a bit weird to me. Could you please give me another example?

Which part don't you understand?

Do you understand these, for example?

1. No one ordinary person can can impose their will on this forum.
2. In those four boroughs where no one party had overall control there was a much more pronounced rise in Labour support.
3. In Mozambique, there is a wide diversity of languages and in some provinces no one language is dominant.
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:46 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
No Molly, I can't understand any of them. I think "no" simply means "not any", and so, in your sentences, "one" should be omitted...
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:54 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
Molly wrote:
Do you understand these, for example?

1. No one ordinary person can can impose their will on this forum.
2. In those four boroughs where no one party had overall control there was a much more pronounced rise in Labour support.
3. In Mozambique, there is a wide diversity of languages and in some provinces no one language is dominant.

I'm not a whizz at English, but I think you meant "No" instead of "No one". Smile
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:18 am  the phrase with "no one"		  
lost_soul wrote:
I'm not a whizz at English, but I think you meant "No" instead of "No one". Smile

How about here?

1. There are no two people affected by drink in the same way.
2. No two amendments can be on the floor at the same time.
3. Since no two mice are identical, let alone two human beings, replacing X would make a difference.

The one, two, three, etc. are there for emphasis.
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:18 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
I agree with you about cases of "no + two/ three/etc +noun", but " no + one + noun" still seems very odd to me, Molly. :O:O
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:52 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
nessie wrote:
I agree with you about cases of "no + two/ three/etc +noun", but " no + one + noun" still seems very odd to me, Molly. :O:O

Maybe you just need time to adjust to it.

Similar expressions with emphasis added:

Not one person will help.
Not one single person will help.

....

Who came to the party?

Nobody.
Nobody at all.

.........

Who came to the party?

Not a soul.
Not one single soul.
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:54 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
Hi, nessie.
Where did you take this sentence? 'One' is not followed by a noun, it is used instead of it. If we omit 'one', what should we use instead? (I ask, I don't know) Smile
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:58 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
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'One' is not followed by a noun, ... .

??

no one person...

"Person" is a noun there.
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 18:05 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
Smile that there were no one available
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the phrase with "no one" Tue Jun 03, 2008 18:08 pm  the phrase with "no one"		  
Inga wrote:
Smile that there were no one available

Sorry?
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