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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)



 
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:05 am  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
Dear Sirs,

I have questions on how to use much and many in the sentence. Would you mind to check my sentences. If I am wrong please, consider to make a correction and explanation.

1. How much rice do you want? Not too much. Just a little.
2. How much french fries do you like? Not too much. Just a little.
3. How much ice cream do you like? Not too much. Just a little.
4. How much coffee do you like? Not too much. Just a little.
5. How many meatballs do you want? Not too many just a few.

I doubts to my answer if it they are correct.
Thanks.
alv
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:52 am  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
The only one that's really wrong is, "How much french fries do you like?" French fries are countable, so it should be, "How many french fries would you like?" (not "do you like"). The answer would be "just a few".

You should also have written, "How much coffee WOULD you like?" All of those sentences with "do you like" should be changed to "would you like".
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 14:30 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
Thank you very much Jamie for the corrections. It is really confusing to me that french fries belongs to countable nouns.
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:02 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
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French fries are countable, so it should be...,

Has the term "French fries" returned to your shores?
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:07 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
Molly wrote:
Quote:
French fries are countable, so it should be...,

Has the term "French fries" returned to your shores?

It never left.
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:20 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
Wasn't it usurped for a while? Y'know, when you got all upset with the French for not doing what you wanted to force them to do.
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:22 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
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I for one never stopped using the term 'french fries'. And I've never heard anyone I know over here use anything else -- other than shortening the expression 'french fries' to 'fries'. That shortened form has probably been in use for decades over here.
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:34 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
Molly wrote:
Jamie (K) wrote:
Molly wrote:
Quote:
French fries are countable, so it should be...,

Has the term "French fries" returned to your shores?

It never left.

Wasn't it usurped for a while? Y'know, when you got all upset with the French for not doing what you wanted to force them to do.

Oh, some small independent restaurant somewhere probably started using the word "freedom fries" or something, and that one incident got splattered all over the European media and people generalized it in their minds to the whole United States. It was another chance for Europeans to feel superior. In fact, Americans never stopped using the term "french fries" for a second.

Compare this to the French, who actually have laws that fine and otherwise penalize businesses that use American terms.

Also, it wasn't that the French weren't doing what the US was "trying to force them to do". They were actually providing war materiel (including rockets) and intelligence to Saddam Hussein's regime, in violation of UN sanctions. Officials on Jacques Chirac's staff were being paid off by the regime with millions of dollars in oil futures. French companies were violating the UN sanctions by negotiating oil deals with the Iraqi regime, and in order to facilitate them, they were trying to get the sanctions lifted. Then when there was a danger that Saddam Hussein would be toppled, and the French oil contracts might not be honored by the next government, Chirac started bellowing that "war for oil" slogan, and nobody brought up Chirac's tendency to back up genocidal dictators for economic gain.
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Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?) Thu Jun 05, 2008 18:42 pm  Usage of much and many (How much rice do you want?)		  
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It was another chance for Europeans to feel superior.

Not the Brits and Irish, eh? They say "chips".

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nobody brought up Chirac's tendency to back up genocidal dictators for economic gain.

Lucky for the States and Britain, eh? They also would have had to talk about their tendecy to do the same.
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