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| Zishuli wrote: | | I knew it doesn't sound appropriate, but I finally decided to use the adverb " really " simply because I wanted to emphasize my confidence of the certainty |
Adjectives are weakening (yet another adjective  ). They weaken the emotions especially.
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| #9 (permalink) Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:14 am The definition of " fractious" |
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| Gray wrote: | | Zishuli wrote: | Oh, that's why I said " I really believe". Hopefully the words really and believe could imply both confidence and "certainty".
How could I be so confident ? hehe, do you know how people say " I believe in God" or " I believe in myself" ?  |
I didn't say "How could you be so confident?", I said, "How could you be so confident about certainty?"
Confidence, certainty and belief --
How could we imply confidence and certainty by belief? Is it our false belief that belief is not independent in its meaning? |
 I wish I could be able to discuss this topic pedantically with you. That's why I am here trying hard to get my English improved.
However, I realise that if I really want to discuss this matter with you, I have to study not only English but as well as philology, philosophy, theology and psychology. I will surely be consumed with it.  |
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| #10 (permalink) Sat Feb 21, 2009 15:15 pm The definition of " fractious" |
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| Zishuli wrote: | | Gray wrote: | | Zishuli wrote: | Oh, that's why I said " I really believe". Hopefully the words really and believe could imply both confidence and "certainty".
How could I be so confident ? hehe, do you know how people say " I believe in God" or " I believe in myself" ? |
I didn't say "How could you be so confident?", I said, "How could you be so confident about certainty?"
Confidence, certainty and belief --
How could we imply confidence and certainty by belief? Is it our false belief that belief is not independent in its meaning? |
I wish I could be able to discuss this topic pedantically with you. That's why I am here trying hard to get my English improved.
However, I realise that if I really want to discuss this matter with you, I have to study not only English but as well as philology, philosophy, theology and psychology. I will surely be consumed with it. |
We all should be consumed with not just the language but with something more substantial.
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| #11 (permalink) Sat Feb 21, 2009 16:13 pm The definition of "fractious" |
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Gray,
Most knowledge are imparted through languages.
So, language is the first key we need to obtain knowledge.
If I can't handle languages well , it will be hard for me to see any substantiality in those -gies (philology, philosophy, theology, psychology ....etc), not to mention that if we want to discuss it. |
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| #12 (permalink) Sat Feb 21, 2009 16:19 pm The definition of "fractious" |
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Well put. I could recollect something which mean everything that exists is nothing but its representation in words. We could hardly be objective.
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| #13 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:34 am The definition of "fractious" |
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Gray,
Are you trying to bring up a philosophical theory of the functions of signs and symbols to discuss with me ?
If reading is the only way you contact with and cognize the world, then you will surely be inclined to symbolize everything you know.
Fortunately, we are not computers, we don't need to transcribe data into digital form to ensure that we have already got the information or obtained the knowledge.
If you " know ", " feel "or" understand "something, you don't need to describe it to yourself. You don't need words.
Not every existence needs to be proved or documented.
By the way, is it very important for us to be objective ? |
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| #14 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 20:09 pm The definition of "fractious" |
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| Zishuli wrote: | | Are you trying to bring up a philosophical theory of the functions of signs and symbols to discuss with me ? |
We don't try, at least we shouldn't.
| Zishuli wrote: | | If reading is the only way you contact with and cognize the world, then you will surely be inclined to symbolize everything you know. |
So, which comes first -- cognition or knowledge?
| Zishuli wrote: | | Fortunately, we are not computers, we don't need to transcribe data into digital form to ensure that we have already got the information or obtained the knowledge. |
Quite logical.
| Zishuli wrote: | If you " know ", " feel "or" understand "something, you don't need to describe it to yourself. You don't need words.
Not every existence needs to be proved or documented. |
Intangible indeed Definitely non-trivial. Something lively I have ever come across.
| Zishuli wrote: | | By the way, is it very important for us to be objective ? |
For writers -- yes.
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| #15 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:06 am The definition of "fractious" |
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Gray,
Do you really think that writers should have to be objective ?
What kind of writers you mean ? The journalist ?
I don't think you were talking about poet, essayist, fictionalist or novelist. They need sensitivity but not objectivity.  |
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Well, I did pause for a moment when I typed " really believe". I knew it doesn't sound appropriate, but I finally decided to use the adverb " really " simply because I wanted to emphasize my confidence of the certainty( ok, it might be expressed in Chinese way of thinking. )