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#2 (permalink) Wed Mar 11, 2009 17:10 pm when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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I would definitely select "parody", as well! I wasn't even aware of those first two definitions of "burlesque" until I saw your post.
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#3 (permalink) Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:53 am when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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A parody is not a substitute for original work but it must copy enough of that work to make the parody recognizable, and that amount of copying is deemed fair use.
A burlesque, in contrast, is usually just a humorous substitute for the original and so cuts into the demand for it by providing a substitute.
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#5 (permalink) Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:44 am when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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Unlike mine, the smileys precede the words at your place...it seems  _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:52 pm The FTC has a sense of humor? |
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I think her smile was simply in reaction to your words, Gray.
Speaking of parody, here's an unusual example from the US Government. Despite my feelings for the government, I thought they did a great job. Here are the original ads that they are mocking:
These two are the "responses" from the US Government:
Also see: The Federal Trade Commission is getting hip and cool
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#10 (permalink) Thu Mar 19, 2009 13:15 pm when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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| Gray wrote: | | Gray wrote: | | Zishuli wrote: | It precedes my words, follows after your smiley. |
I should expect you to edit 
There could hardly be anything that precedes words 
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Zishuli, by edit I meant --
"It precedes my words, follows your smiley."
What should I follow? |
Thank you. I have read the post " What should I follow ". I 'll say I don't really agree with you and other English experts who joined the discussion.
If we are talking about terseness, seemingly, the word " after " is redundant in the sentence. But terseness is not the only measure of expression. I know nothing about languages, what I know is the " barycenter " of the sentence is actually being slightly changed by editing the word " after " out.
Of course, languages have their rules and regulations, but they are not unalterable. Sometimes, for some particular purposes or of specific effects of expression, tautology can be acceptable.
I have stolen something from WordRefference.com Language forums, which is a post respond to a question like yours:
If it's sloppy English, it's old sloppy English. It's very common in the King James Version of the Bible. I'm not convinced that it's simply sloppy English.
If I say, "The king came by. His courtiers followed him." it would mean something different to me than "The king came by. His courtiers followed after him." The first indicates an order of events, such as relative positions in a parade or a procession. The second indicates that the courtiers are tagging along behind the king. In other words, their attention is on the king in the second case, and not necessarily on the king at all in the first case.
I don't think the person who wrote this post is an expert, but I know he is not pedantic at all. |
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#11 (permalink) Thu Mar 19, 2009 19:42 pm when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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| Zishuli wrote: | Thank you. I have read the post " What should I follow ". I 'll say I don't really agree with you and other English experts who joined the discussion. |
I never insisted that you should agree 
| Zishuli wrote: | | If we are talking about terseness, seemingly, the word " after " is redundant in the sentence. But terseness is not the only measure of expression. I know nothing about languages, what I know is the " barycenter " of the sentence is actually being slightly changed by editing the word " after " out. |
Yes, it reached me. But who is speaking out loud there -- an editor or a writer? Only writers do argue so wholeheartedly, don't they?
| Zishuli wrote: | | Of course, languages have their rules and regulations, but they are not unalterable. Sometimes, for some particular purposes or of specific effects of expression, tautology can be acceptable. |
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#12 (permalink) Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:38 am when "burlesques" meets "parody" |
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