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About aches and pains #16 (permalink) Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:20 pm   About aches and pains		  
Here again, isn't it a matter of collocation and phonetics? Don't some terms and expressions just become set phrases because it's easier to pronounce them this way or because a certain word sounds better than another?

Re: Neck of the woods

spencer wrote:
Thanks, so it's your area.
But why?
I mean, why is that?
Does anyone know it?

Why don't you have a look at the following theory from The Phrase Finder? I found it quite interesting:

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In the country, there aren't any street addresses. So you literally use landmarks to refer to where a person lives. Up in your neck of the woods or up the holler. On the mountain. Down on the river.

: "Neck of the woods," meaning a certain region or neighborhood, is one of those phrases we hear so often that we never consider how fundamentally weird they are. In the case of "neck," we have one of a number of terms invented by the colonists in Early America to describe the geographical features of their new home. There was, apparently, a conscious attempt made to depart from the style of place names used in England for thousands of years in favor of new "American" names. So in place of "moor," "heath," "dell," "fen" and other such Old World terms, the colonists came up with "branch," "fork," "hollow," "gap," "flat" and other descriptive terms used both as simple nouns ("We're heading down to the hollow") and parts of proper place names ("Jones Hollow").

: "Neck" had been used in English since around 1555 to describe a narrow strip of land, usually surrounded by water, based on its resemblance to the neck of an animal. But the Americans were the first to apply "neck" to a narrow stand of woods or, more importantly, to a settlement located in a particular part of the woods. In a country then largely covered by forests, your "neck of the woods" was your home, the first American neighborhood

This is an example of a "fossil" word in which an old word has been preserved in only one or two special sayings. Short Shrift is one example. In the case of Neck the ancestor words in Old Breton (cnoch) and Old German (hnack) both had a sense of "hill" or "summit"; ie identifying a place.
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Ache and pain #17 (permalink) Fri Apr 21, 2006 14:08 pm   Ache and pain		  
Thanks Choncita, I thought of the neck as the body-part, but I can see the the connection between the neck as the srip of a land,and the woods already,thank You.
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